Integrating water filters and softener into the coach, and more

Like most RVs, our motorhome has a wet bay where one hooks up the incoming fresh water supply and drains the gray and black waste tanks. Our wet bay came with an electric hose reel, and a single filter for water quality.

Here’s what it looked like:

Wet bay

For a while, I’ve had an external water softener to deal with hard water in various parts of the country, and a three-stage water filter system:

Water softener and filters

But lugging those in and out of a storage bay every time we changed campsites was a bit of a pain. So I came up with a plan to get them both mounted inside the coach, so I don’t need to do that each time.

I engaged Dillon Massey of DC Plumbing & General Repair in Red Bay, Alabama to do this for me.

Here’s a rough sketch that I drew, to help explain my plan to Dillon:

Sketch

A little complex, perhaps, but it seemed logical to me. The hose from the campground faucet would be attached to a connector in the wet bay, then would split to a built-in black tank flush valve and a hose to the water filters mounted in a cargo bay. The water would then go from the filters to a three-way valve to the water softener and a connector for backflushing or regenerating the water softener, with another three-way valve and connector after the softener, then on to the existing systems.

The idea of the two three-way valves and connectors was to have water normally flow from the filter through the softener and onwards, but by turning the valves and attaching an input hose to the first connector and an output hose to the second connector, I could regenerate the softener, where one adds salt to it and flushes it out (without getting salt in the rest of the system), a maintenance process I need to do every couple of weeks in hard water areas. Or by reversing those hoses, I could backflush the softener, i.e. have water flow in the reverse normal direction only through the water softener, something I need to do every three months.

These enhancements were admittedly unusual; Dillon had mounted water softeners in wet bays many times before, but had never before done valves and connectors like this to backflush and regenerate. Normally, people would disconnect and remove the water softener when doing those servicing operations, but I wanted to be able to do it more easily.

In preparation for the work, while staying at Red Bay Acres, I cleared out the plumbing bits from the wet bay and nearby cargo compartment:

Cleared out plumbing bits

Dillon removed panels at the top of the wet bay, moved the electrical outlet, and removed the hose reel, which I didn’t want anymore, both to provide space for the water softener, and because I didn’t use it anyway; I preferred to connect a more flexible hose:

Removed panels and hose reel

The removed panels; I had the idea to reverse them from how they were before, which provided more space in the wet bay, enabling adding salt to the water softener more easily (compare the picture of the wet bay at the start of this post to how it looks at the end of this post):

Panels

There wasn’t room in the wet bay for the three-stage water filters, so my plan was to install them in the nearby cargo bay, mounted on the wall (to avoid interfering with the cargo slide):

Storage bay

Here are the fllters installed there, with hoses connecting to the wet bay:

Filters

He also added a valve to connect the water system directly to the black tank flush, so I don’t need to connect a hose to rinse out the black tank, though the valve is a little hard to reach:

Black tank flush valve

The three-way valves and connectors; unfortunately the spacing wasn’t ideal, so the left valve only barely cleared the right connector, but it was usable:

Three-way valves

Dillon’s mods completed, with new three-way valves and connectors installed in the top panel, the water softener mounted inside the wet bay:

Red Bay mods completed

Unfortunately, when I tested the connections later, I discovered that they didn’t match my specifications. Here’s a sketch over a picture of the wet bay, showing how I suspected that the connections were misconfigured:

Sketch

This meant that while it was fine in the normal (horizontal) valve positions, when turning the valves to the regen/backflush positions (vertical), the left one would connect between the incoming water and the connector, instead of the water softener input and connector. And similarly, the right valve would connect between the rest of the coach and the connector, instead of the water softener output and connector, as it should.

So I sketched how I want to fix that, plus also rearranging the valves and connectors to make them fit better, and adding an easier to reach valve for the black tank flush:

Sketch

While at NIRVC in the DC area, I got them to make those changes:

Wet bay

Wet bay

Wet bay

Wet bay

Work in progress

They successfully reversed the positions of the left valve and connector, though couldn’t rotate it 90° as requested, so instead trimmed the valve handle to fit better in the space.

Regenerating the water softener involves adding two containers of salt to the top of the unit, which I can do without having to remove it from the wet bay:

Regenerating configuration

Here are the valves in the regenerating configuration, with the input hose connected on the left and the output on the right:

Regenerating configuration

Regenerating configuration

And here are the valves in the backflushing configuration, with the input water on the right, and output on the left:

Backflushing configuration

Backflushing configuration

Much easier. Unfortunately, this saga isn’t quite over: while this works, filling the water tank gets really slow after regenerating. I suspect that the water filters are in the incorrect place in the circuit, so they are getting clogged with the salt. We’ll be back in Red Bay in December, so I’ll get Dillon to investigate and fix it then. In the meantime, I’ll have to disconnect the output of the water softener and connect a hose to it, to avoid this issue. Annoying, but not too difficult.

And when doing that, I discovered that even with the water pump on, no water would flow inside the coach when diverting the softener output. Which tells me that these modifications are after the tank, not before as they should be. The way I designed it, using the valves shouldn’t have any impact on pumping water from the tank into the coach.

Finally, here’s the normal configuration of the valves, where water flows through the filters and softener into the coach. Notice also the new black tank flush valve in the upper-left, that makes it super easy to rinse out the black tank (we kept the valve Dillon installed too, just visible in the lower-right, as a backup):

Normal configuration

And notice also the normal water input connector:

Normal configuration

I really appreciate not needing to lug the water filters and softener every time we change campsites. And while the regeneration and backflush options still aren’t quite right, I still think they were an excellent idea; I look forward to them working as designed.

Update: after much investigating, I determined that the valves and connectors were okay, just reversed from how I specified. So I was able to simply rotate the water softener, so the input and output were reversed, and swap the labels on the new valves, and now the system works properly. Yay!

Blue Ridge Parkway south end

South of Great Smoky Mountains National Park is the southern end of the Blue Ridge Parkway.

This park, barely wider than the highway, is 469 miles long, between Shenandoah National Park in Virginia at the north end and Great Smoky Mountains National Park in North Carolina at the south end. We visited the northern end a few weeks ago.

Entering the southern end of the parkway:

Entrance sign

There were several tunnels:

Tunnel

Tunnel

Parkway

Tunnel

Tunnel

Tunnel

Views:

View

View

View

View

Fire lookout:

Fire lookout

View

View

View

View

View

View

Visitor center:

Visitor center

Visitor center

Visitor center

Visitor center

Elevation 5,820 feet:

Elevation 5,820

View

View

View

Great Smoky Mountains National Park

We visited Great Smoky Mountains National Park in Tennessee and North Carolina over several days, starting with a long drive from Pigeon Forge, north of the park, to the Oconaluftee Visitor Center at the southern side of the park (plus a bit further to the southernmost visitor center of the Blue Ridge Parkway; see a separate post about that).

The NPS map; click or tap to interact:

Map

An interactive map of our route:

Entrance sign

Parking tag required:

Parking tag required

View

Loop

Tunnel

View

Elk were re-introduced to the park in 2001:

Elk

Oconaluftee Visitor Center:

Oconaluftee Visitor Center

Relief map

Passport stamp

Exhibits

Exhibits

Exhibits

Farm exhibits:

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Chickens

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Pigs

Stream

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Farm exhibits

Elk in front of elk sign:

Elk in front of elk sign

View

An interactive map of our route for our second visit, to the Sugarlands Visitor Center and Clingmans Dome:

Sugarlands Visitor Center:

Sugarlands Visitor Center

Sugarlands Visitor Center

Exhibits

Exhibits

Exhibits

Exhibits

Clingmans Dome:

Clingmans Dome

Passport stamp:

Passport stamp

Visitor center

Split rock:

Split rock

Path to the lookout; we decided not to go up there:

Path to lookout

View:

View

View

View

View

View

View

An interactive map of our route for our third visit, to Cades Cove:

Tunnel

Horses:

Horses

Old church:

Old church

View:

View

Visitor Center:

Visitor Center

Visitor Center

Old farm buildings:

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Snakes

Water mill

Water mill

Water mill

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Old farm buildings

Camp Margaritaville RV Resort and Lodge

We stayed at Camp Margaritaville RV Resort and Lodge in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. (Campground Reviews listing.)

One day we’ll learn that staying at resorts is a waste of money for us, but it was not this day.

Dates:

  • Check in: 2024-06-30
  • Check out: 2024-07-07
  • 7 nights

Weather:

  • Partly cloudy, some rain
  • High temps 83-91°F, lows 64-73°F
  • Negligible wind, gusts to 12 MPH

Noise:

  • No road noise
  • No train horn noise
  • Some neighbor noise (mostly kids)
  • Nightly fireworks at nearby Dollywood

Site:

  • #84, back-in, concrete
  • Needed to disconnect toad, parked behind coach
  • Somewhat unlevel site (surprisingly for concrete; high on front and passenger side; used hydraulic leveling
  • Concrete driveway about 50 feet long by 18 feet wide
  • 25 feet to neighbors on both sides
  • Picnic table
  • Fire pit
  • A couple young trees
  • Clean site

Utilities:

  • 50 amp power, conveniently located
  • 50 PSI water, conveniently located
  • Good sewer connection, conveniently located (1 10-foot pipe needed)

Internet (in usage priority order):

  • T-Mobile: 25-55 Mbps down, 4 Mbps up, 65 ms ping
  • AT&T: 90 Mbps down, 9 Mbps up, 90 ms ping
  • Verizon: 15-24 Mbps down, 2 Mbps up, 90 ms ping
  • Starlink: not used
  • Campground Wi-Fi: not used

Amenities:

  • Garbage pickup from site
  • Pools
  • Restaurant (in theory with to-site delivery, but that didn’t work when we tried it)

Our review on Campground Reviews:

Nice resort near Great Smoky Mountain NP

We’re not “resort” people, but this one was nice. It was the nicest-looking resort close to the entrance to Great Smoky Mountain National Park and far enough off the main road, so it was reasonably quiet. The sites are all concrete pads, so you’d expect them to be level, which ours was not. Weird, but not a problem. We were down in “the valley,” which is the farthest you can get to the resort amenities, but that probably contributed to it being quieter. Our site was spotless, and all the utilities worked well. I loved being able to go up to the restaurant for coconut shrimp and a margarita (super spendy, but a bonus nonetheless). We camped at Camp Margaritaville RV Resort and Lodge in a Motorhome.

Campground map:

Map

An interactive map:

Our site:

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

Griddle:

Griddle

Utilities:

Utilities

Our site and others:

Our site and others

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Bathhouse:

Bathhouse

Lodge:

Lodge

Restaurant dinner menu:

Restaurant menu

Restaurant menu

Fancy fried green tomatoes:

Fancy fried green tomatoes

Burger and coconut shrimp, plus margaritas:

Burger etc

Lodge:

Lodge

Lodge

Foyer:

Foyer

Breakfast buffet:

Breakfast buffet

Breakfast buffet

Breakfast buffet

Pool area:

Pool area

Pool area

Pool area

A nice resort, and we do appreciate an on-site restaurant, but we’re not really into other resort facilities. We probably won’t stay here again.

Travel from Beaver, West Virginia to Pigeon Forge, Tennessee

We drove our coach 246 miles, about four hours of driving, from Beaver, West Virginia to Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.

Here’s a map showing our route, heading west:

Route map

An interactive map, showing potential stops:

We had no sewer hookup at our campsite; when we were ready to leave our gray and black tanks were both at 83%:

83% gray and black tanks

So we stopped by the dump station on the way out:

Dumping waste tanks

A very narrow road out of the park:

Narrow road

Of course, as we head out of West Virginia, we had to play John Denver’s Take Me Home, Country Roads:

John Denver's Take Me Home, Country Roads

Country roads:

Country roads

Fun with zoom:

Fun with zoom

Fun with zoom

South on I-77:

South on I-77

5% downgrade; nice to have actual hills for a change:

5% downgrade

East River Mountain tunnel:

East River Mountain tunnel

East River Mountain tunnel

East River Mountain tunnel

“Welcome to Virginia”:

Welcome to Virginia

Rest stop:

Rest stop

Big Walker Mountain tunnel:

Big Walker Mountain Tunnel

Big Walker Mountain Tunnel

Big Walker Mountain Tunnel

Fun with zoom

A colorful water tower, painted to look like a hot air balloon:

Colorful water tower

Fuel stop:

Fuel stop

Fuel stop

Sbarro for lunch:

Sbarro for lunch

Back to our coach:

Back to our coach

An accident ahead:

Accident ahead

Accident

“Tennessee Welcomes You”:

Tennessee Welcomes You

Rest area:

Rest area

Heading in to Pigeon Forge:

Fun with zoom

Titanic:

Titanic

Hollywood Wax Museum:

Hollywood Wax Museum

MagiQuest:

MagiQuest

Swimwear and alligators:

Swimwear etc

Camp Margaritaville:

Camp Margaritaville

Check in:

Check in

Arriving at our site:

Our site

Custom couch side tables

While in Red Bay we also got Cody Poores of Cody’s Custom Cabinets to create custom side tables for our theater seating couch.

We already had nice side tables that we bought from Dave & LJ’s RV Interior Design in Woodland, Washington, along with our couch. Here’s the one on Jenn’s side of the couch, next to the kitchen pull-out counter and drawers:

Side table

And my side, using the top drawer as a surface for my iPad:

Side table

They were nice, but we wanted ones that were sized better for the space, matched the look of built-in cabinets, and had a better pull-out surface on top. Cody was able to produce custom units to match our requirements.

Here he’s removing the old units:

Side table

Side table

Jenn’s new unit, without the top; you can see the pull-out surface:

Side table

My unit installed:

Side table

The pull-out surface is very useful for resting my iPad and MacBook Pro:

Side table

Jenn’s unit:

Side table

Hers also has the pull-out surface and two drawers:

Side table

Side table

Much better!

New River Gorge National Park: Thurmond and waterfalls

We visited the Thurmond area of New River Gorge National Park, plus a scenic drive to a couple more waterfalls.

The NPS map of the whole park; click or tap to interact on their site:

Map

An interactive map of our route for visiting Thurmond and the waterfalls:

Waterfall on the way to Thurmond:

Waterfall

Waterfall

Waterfall

Waterfall

Waterfall

Waterfall

Waterfall

Waterfall

One-way car and rail bridge to Thurmond:

One-way road and rail bridge to Thurmond

Bridge

Bridge

Thurmond:

Thurmond

Train engine:

Train engine

Passport stamps:

Passport stamps

Visitor center:

Visitor center

Visitor center

Train engine:

Train engine

Train

Train

Train

Historic Thurmond:

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Thurmond

Back over the one-way bridge:

Back over the one-way bridge

Glen Ferris falls:

Glen Ferris falls

Glen Ferris falls

Glen Ferris falls

Glen Ferris falls

New River Gorge National Park: Canyon Rim and Bridge

We visited the Canyon Rim area of New River Gorge National Park, the newest full National Park in the US. The Canyon Rim section has a visitor center that overlooks the iconic New River Gorge bridge, plus has a winding scenic drive down into the canyon, that passes under the bridge three times.

The NPS map of the whole park; click or tap to interact on their site:

Map

An interactive map of our route for visiting Canyon Rim etc:

Going over the New River Gorge Bridge:

New River Gorge Bridge

Visitor center:

Visitor center

Visitor center

Visitor center

Visitor center

Visitor center

Visitor center

Gorge viewpoint:

Gorge viewpoint

Gorge viewpoint

Bridge viewpoint:

Bridge viewpoint

Bridge viewpoint

We did the scenic Fayette Station Road driving tour, that goes down into the gorge:

Fayette Station Road driving tour

Narrow road

Bridge virw from road

Bridge virw from road

Bridge virw from road

Bridge virw from road

One way bridge:

One way bridge

One way bridge

A view of the New River Gorge Bridge from the one-way bridge:

New River Gorge Bridge

New River Gorge Bridge

Bridge view

New River Gorge Bridge

New River Gorge Bridge