Quechee Pine Valley Campground

We stayed at Quechee Pine Valley Campground in White River Junction, Vermont. (Campground Reviews listing.)

They were called Quechee / Pine Valley KOA Holiday when we booked (fairly recently), but we got a first clue that they were moving away from being a KOA when they didn’t give us the KOA VIP member discount. They were changing the various signage away from KOA during our stay. They have a blog post about their transition back to a private campground.

Dates:

  • Check in: 2025-06-15
  • Check out: 2025-06-18
  • 3 nights

Weather:

  • Partly sunny, some rain
  • High temps 72-75°F, lows 55-62°F
  • Negligible wind, gusts to 17 MPH

Noise:

  • Some distant freeway noise
  • No train horn noise
  • No neighbor noise

Site:

  • #53, pull-in (unusual!), gravel
  • Needed to disconnect toad, parked beside coach
  • Unlevel site; high on driver side; used hydraulic leveling
  • Gravel driveway about 50 feet long by 20 feet wide
  • 20 feet to neighbors on both sides
  • Trees and slope between sites
  • Picnic table
  • Fire pit
  • Tall trees
  • Clean site
  • Elevation 760 feet, front facing SW

Utilities:

  • 50 amp power, conveniently located
  • 40 PSI water, very conveniently located
  • Good sewer connection, very conveniently located (1 10-foot pipe needed)

Internet (in usage priority order):

  • Starlink: 30-44 Mbps down, 16 Mbps up, 31 ms ping, significantly obstructed (lots of trees)
  • Campground Wi-Fi: used by Jenn, but not measured; seemed plenty fast
  • RoamLink: 20 Mbps down, 0.1 Mbps up, 150 ms ping (the RoamLink service picks the best network, so I’m not sure which one it used, other than not AT&T)
  • AT&T: no service

Amenities:

  • Garbage pickup from site
  • Pool
  • Package delivery (didn’t use, but asked)

Our review on Campground Reviews:

Hilly convenient location

When we made our reservation, this was a KOA, but upon arrival, they were in the process of removing all traces of KOA signage. It’s a nice campground, but with some very twisty, hilly internal roads and lots of trees. We had a front-in site at the top of the hill with a narrow road, which wasn’t a comfortable drive in a 40′ motorhome, but they escorted us to our site and made sure there wasn’t any oncoming traffic. Getting out was a little hairy as we had to back out and avoid the trees and the neighbors parked into the street. The site was a little unlevel, with no sky available for Starlink. The campground’s Wi-Fi was decent, and the location was good for exploring Vermont and New Hampshire. We camped at Quechee Pine Valley Campground in a Motorhome.

Campground map:

Map

An interactive map:

Our site; unusually, a front-in site (for motorhomes only):

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

Trees in front of our coach:

Trees in front of our coach

Other sites:

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Pool area (still with some KOA signage here, but since changed):

Pool area

Pond by the entrance:

Pond by the entrance

New entrance sign; clearly a KOA Holiday sign has been removed and replaced with a temporary banner:

New entrance sign

Seems like a nice enough campground, though a little hilly. We’d probably stay here again.

Travel from Richfield Springs, New York to White River Junction, Vermont

We drove our coach 261 miles, about five hours of driving, from Richfield Springs, New York to White River Junction, Vermont.

Here’s a map showing our route, heading northeast — not the most direct route, but the easiest, sticking with interstates, instead of twisty highways:

Route map

An interactive map, with potential stops pinned; we went through Massachusetts, but didn’t stop, so that doesn’t count as a visited state — but we’ll get it in a few weeks time, so that’s fine:

A short video of engaging the tow bar and doing a pull test to ensure the truck wheels turn as we prepare to leave:

Narrow road:

Narrow road

US-20:

US-20

US-20

Exit to I-88 East:

Exit to I-88 East

Exit to I-90 East:

Exit to I-90 East

Tolls:

Tolls

Rest area:

Rest area

Starbucks for lunch:

Starbucks for lunch

Starbucks for lunch

South to I-87:

South to I-87

Exit to I-90 East:

Exit to I-90 East

Narrow roadworks:

Narrow roadworks

Narrow bridge:

Narrow bridge

Fuel stop:

Fuel stop

Massachusetts Welcomes You:

Massachusetts Welcomes You

Steep Grade Next 6 Miles:

Steep Grade Next 6 Miles

Exit to I-91:

Exit to I-91

Narrow roadworks:

Narrow roadworks

Exit to I-91 North:

Exit to I-91 North

Welcome to Vermont:

Welcome to Vermont

Rest area:

Rest area

5% grade:

5% grade

Exit to I-89 North:

Exit to I-89 North

Exit to US-4:

Exit to US-4

Arriving at campground:

Arriving at campground

Following coach up steep narrow curvy road:

Following coach up steep narrow curvy road

We were stuck! Slide-out failed to retract due to leaking piston

While preparing to leave the Four Mile Creek State Park campground recently, the big front driver-side slide-out started to come in crooked — the front side didn’t move, but the back side came in. This is very bad — apart from a potentially difficult and expensive repair, we could not move our coach with the slide unable to retract.

Here you can see that the front side of the slide was almost fully extended:

Slide partially retracted

But the rear side was mostly in:

Slide partially retracted

Looking underneath, the arm was twisted:

Slide partially retracted

That was the end result of our efforts: we stopped after a moment when we realized that it was coming in crooked, and tried re-extending and re-retracting a few times, to no avail; we stopped when it got that skewed, and we couldn’t re-extend it again.

Time to call for professional help! I looked on the RV Help site, and found Brian Villa (Villa Mobile RV Tech). He was enjoying some Sunday time with his family, but was willing to come help us, arriving within an hour or two. We spent some time investigating, trying to narrow down the cause, and eventually discovered that the hydraulic reservoir was empty, and when we added more fluid, it immediately leaked out over the top of the fuel tank:

Leaking hydraulic fluid

Unfortunately it isn’t easy to see the front hydraulic piston, as it’s above the big 150 gallon fuel tank, but we’re pretty confident that the piston seals have failed.

The next day, the tech got some caps for the hydraulic hoses, and capped off the two hydraulic hoses for that slide (here’s the first one capped):

Capped hydraulic hoses

He also disconnected the slide from both the front and back pistons (this is the back one):

Disconnecting slide from piston

Little bolts that hold the slide to the piston:

Little bolts that hold slide to piston

We were unable to push the slide in manually with just the two of us, so he used two jacks to raise the slide a little (as it has to go up before it goes in):

Using jacks to raise slide

We also recruited some extra “muscle” from the campground maintenance staff and other campers, and between six of us we were able to manually push the slide in — once we got it over the first inch or so, it slid in the rest of the way very easily (with a little gravity assist by tilting the coach using air leveling):

Manually pushed slide in

With that in, Brian built some bracing out of 2×4 boards to hold it in, since the hydraulics were disconnected. On the front side of the slide, there was a very sturdy structure on top of the slide:

Wooden bracing

 

Wooden bracing

Even screwed into the slide itself:

Wooden bracing

A simpler but still sturdy bracing above the slide on the rear side:

Wooden bracing

Plus a board bracing the bottom on the front side:

Wooden bracing

Thanks again to Brian for getting us back on the road!

To make it even more secure, I later added a heavy-duty ratchet strap on the rear side of the slide in the basement:

Ratchet strap in basement

Ratchet strap in basement

Plus a board under the couch feet, so they’re not hanging in the air (they sit on the floor when the slide is out):

Board under couch feet

And finally a couple of cabinet jack support poles adding extra bracing on the rear side:

More bracing on slide

Perhaps overkill, but we were continuing to travel while awaiting an appointment to fix it.

I initially made an appointment at NIRVC in Tennessee, which is coming up next week, but I discovered that the manufacturer of the slide cylinders, HWH, is not far off our planned route in Iowa, and they said they would be able to repair the cylinder and restore the slide (plus check the other slide and jacks), much cheaper than NIRVC would be able to (even if NIRVC had ordered a replacement part in time). So we’ll be heading to HWH in a couple of weeks. Hopefully they’ll be able to fix it as easily as they indicate!

Update: it turned out that HWH wasn’t willing to fix the issue, as they thought we’d have to drop the fuel tank to reach the piston. But it wasn’t a wasted trip, as they were able to sell us the required part. We later took our coach to the Oregon Motorcoach Center in Eugene, Oregon, and they were able to successfully fix it, accessing it through the back of the battery compartment.

Cooperstown KOA Journey

We stayed at Cooperstown KOA Journey in Richfield Springs, New York. (Campground Reviews listing.)

A convenient stop when visiting the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown.

Dates:

  • Check in: 2025-06-10
  • Check out: 2025-06-15
  • 5 nights
  • We were going to stay 7 nights, but had a delay when our slide wouldn’t come in at the previous campsite

Weather:

  • Mix of cloudy and rainy
  • High temps 63-73°F, lows 51-56°F
  • A little wind, gusts to 29 MPH

Noise:

  • No road noise
  • No train horn noise
  • Little neighbor noise
  • Nearby cows gently mooing

Site:

  • #70, pull-through, gravel
  • Didn’t need to disconnect toad, parked in front of coach
  • Somewhat level site; high on passenger side; used hydraulic leveling
  • Gravel driveway about 65 feet long by 10 feet wide
  • 16 feet to neighbor on driver side
  • 25 feet to driveway on passenger side
  • Just grass between sites
  • Picnic table
  • Fire pit
  • No trees on site, but some nearby
  • Clean site
  • Elevation 1,520 feet, front facing north

Utilities:

  • 50 amp power, somewhat conveniently located
  • 40 PSI water, somewhat conveniently located (water was off when we arrived, but back on an hour or so later)
  • Good sewer connection, conveniently located (1 10-foot pipe needed)

Internet (in usage priority order):

  • Starlink: 80-340 Mbps down, 19-37 Mbps up, 19-70 ms ping
  • RoamLink: 8-12 Mbps down, 5 Mbps up, 160 ms ping (the RoamLink service picks the best network, so I’m not sure which one it used, other than not AT&T)
  • AT&T: 80-84 Mbps down, 3-10 Mbps up, 80-110 ms ping (I have AT&T on my iPhone)
  • Campground Wi-Fi: not used

Amenities:

  • Garbage dumpsters
  • Pool
  • Package delivery to office

Our review on Campground Reviews:

Convenient to Baseball Hall of Fame

Firstly, the staff here were super helpful and accommodating when we had mechanical issues that meant we had to roll in two days later than planned. I appreciated their flexibility and that they didn’t charge us to change our reservation at the last minute; they also provided excellent customer service. The campground is out in the middle of farmland, and the only noise we had to deal with was the gentle mooing from the cows next door. Our pull-through site had a nice view of rolling fields. The site was a little unlevel, and the neighbor’s fire pit was right next to our vehicle, which was the only drawback. We camped at Cooperstown KOA Journey in a Motorhome.

Campground map (some confusion when we saw the directions to site 10, when we had booked site 70, but all good):

Map

An interactive map:

Our site:

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

Utilities:

Utilities

A nice view out our windshield; we didn’t bother putting our Magne Shade on, since nobody was in front of us, and there wasn’t sun pouring in that window:

Nice view out windshield

Several packages in my foldable wagon:

Packages in cart

Cows in the field next to the RV park:

Cows in field next to RV park

Cabins:

Cabins

Other sites:

Other sites

Pool:

Pool

Dog park and an amusing sign:

Dog park and amusing sign

Playground:

Playground

Dump station and art:

Dump station and art

An older campground, but totally fine; we’d be happy to stay here again.

Travel from Youngstown to Richfield Springs, New York

We drove our coach 254 miles, about five hours of driving, from Youngstown to Richfield Springs, New York.

Here’s a map showing our route, heading east:

Map

An interactive map, with potential stops pinned:

Not heading to Canada:

Not heading to Canada

Bridge:

Bridge

Tolls:

Tolls

Bridge:

Bridge

Exit to I-290 East:

Exit

Exit to I-90 East:

Exit to I-90 East

Rest area:

Rest area

BK for lunch:

BK for lunch

Roadworks:

Roadworks

Another rest area:

Rest area

Rest area

Yet another rest area:

Rest area

Paladin on the dash:

Paladin on the dash

Rainy:

Rainy

Arriving at KOA:

Arriving at KOA

Our site:

Our site

Polishing wheel rims and headlights

The wheel rims on our coach were looking rather untidy, so based on some recommendations on Facebook, I purchased the Purple Metal Polish and Aluminum Deoxidizer:

Purple metal polish

Super easy to apply; just wipe on some deoxidizer, followed by the polish, and wipe off.

Here’s a rear wheel before polishing:

Before

And after:

After

A front wheel before:

Before

And after:

After

I also treated the tires with 303 Protectant for UV protection:

303

The polish worked on the headlights too; before:

Before

And after:

After

Much better!

Four Mile Creek State Park

We stayed at Four Mile Creek State Park in Youngstown, New York. (Campground Reviews listing.)

A nice lakefront state park.

Dates:

  • Check in: 2025-06-01
  • Check out: 2025-06-10
  • 9 nights
  • We were only supposed to be here 7 nights, but were stuck when we couldn’t get our slides in!

Weather:

  • Partly sunny, some rain
  • High temps 55-73°F, lows 47-62°F
  • Some wind, gusts to 26 MPH

Noise:

  • No road noise
  • No train horn noise
  • Some neighbor noise (kids and dogs)

Site:

  • #47, back-in, grass with embedded gravel
  • Needed to disconnect toad, parked beside coach
  • Somewhat level site; high in front; used hydraulic leveling
  • Grass site about 90 feet long by 50 feet wide
  • No neighbor on driver side
  • Just grass between sites
  • Picnic table
  • Fire pit
  • Tall trees on driver side
  • Clean site
  • Elevation 270 feet, front facing SE

Utilities:

  • 50 amp power, conveniently located
  • No water or sewer
  • Water available a few sites down; dump station by entrance

Internet (in usage priority order):

  • Starlink: 105-242 Mbps down, 20-30 Mbps up, 30 ms ping
  • RoamLink: 6-9 Mbps down, 3 Mbps up, 130 ms ping (the RoamLink service picks the best network, so I’m not sure which one it used, other than not AT&T)
  • AT&T: 6-14 Mbps down, 0.1 Mbps up, 70 ms ping (I have AT&T on my iPhone)
  • Campground Wi-Fi: not used

Amenities:

  • Garbage dumpsters

Our review on Campground Reviews:

Gorgeous lakefront campground with stellar staff

All the sites are grassy back-ins. About half the park has no hookups, half has 30A, and one row has 50A. We managed to secure a 50A site with a view of Lake Ontario from our windows, which was a nice perk. The location is ideal for accessing Niagara Falls and Old Fort Niagara. It’s also convenient if you want to take a daytrip up to Toronto, with multiple border crossings to choose from.

The staff here were the best, however. Not only were they invaluable in pointing out things to do in the area, but we had a mechanical failure on the day of our departure, and it took a couple of days to get up and running again. The office staff were great to work with and very understanding of our situation. At one point, we needed some “muscle,” so several park employees and one or two locals joined in to help us out, and it helped restore some of my faith in humanity.

The only downside of this campground was the lack of full hookups. Due to our unexpectedly longer stay, we did use the bathroom blocks for once, and the showers were hit and miss (one I tried had a very weak spray and no hot water, but the one I tried on a subsequent day was much better). All in all, I would stay here again. We camped at Four Mile Creek State Park in a Motorhome.

Campground map:

Map

An interactive map:

Our site:

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

Utilities… just electric:

Utilities

There were a number of water stations dotted around the campground (marked on the map):

Water station

I used the nearby one (you can see our coach in the background) to fill our water bladder:

Filling water bladder

Then pumped the water from the bladder to the coach:

Pumping from bladder to coach

Pumping from bladder to coach

Then filled the waste tote in the back of the truck via the macerator:

Filling tote via macerator

And dumped the tote at the dump station:

Dumping tote

My beard blowing in the wind while adding stickers to our coach:

David with beard blowing in wind

Added the New York state sticker:

Added New York state sticker

Just a few left:

Added New York state sticker

Watching the sunset over Lake Ontario:

Sunset

Sunset

Very hazy due to wildfire smoke from Canada:

Sunset

Lake Ontario:

Lake Ontario

Lake Ontario

Lake Ontario

Lake Ontario

Bathrooms:

Bathrooms

We actually used the bathrooms once or twice:

Bathroom

Including the shower, due to filling tanks after our slide issue:

Shower

The playground behind our site:

Playground behind our site

Other sites:

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

A nice state park. We’d be happy to stay here again.