Firefly Vegatouch Mira

About the same time I purchased the Coach Proxy device to remotely control our coach, I also purchased a Firefly Vegatouch Mira device, that does much the same thing.

They each have pros and cons; the Mira device interfaces with an actual iOS app, with a more attractive UI, whereas the Coach Proxy has a local web interface. The Mira device communicates via Bluetooth, so is local to the coach, whereas Coach Proxy uses Wi-Fi, so can be accessed remotely — but the Wi-Fi connection can be less reliable.

The features are a bit different, too, e.g. the Mira app can rearrange the home screen a little, but Coach Proxy has presets to quickly restore a state.

And Mira was from a commercial company, vs a hobbyist project for Coach Proxy.

So, having both seemed like the best of both worlds.

However, the experience with Mira wasn’t as seamless as I’d like.

But first, installation of the hardware. The hardware component is a small box, about the size of a deck of cards, with a port for the Spyder multiplex network of the coach. It just needed to be plugged in anywhere on the coach. I happened to have a spare port behind the fridge, accessible via a panel outside (you can see more pics of this area in my Spyder shades issue post). So I connected it there; the orange cable leads to the device:

Panel behind fridge

A closer look:

Vegatouch device

To enable the app, one long-presses on the coach floorplan option in the main Spyder panel (which I had previously upgraded), to reveal a secret coach models screen, which includes a button to enable the mobile app, amongst other options:

Coach settings

Once that is done, a Mobile App button appears in the settings:

Mobile app button

The Mobile App settings, before connecting the device:

Mobile app settings

After installing the Vegatouch Mira app, it installed an update:

Installing update

But the app mis-identified our coach as an Allegro Open Road?! That’s not right:

Allegro Open Road?!

Of course, with it misidentifying the coach, most of the controls were wrong, and didn’t work. I tried re-installing the config, to no avail:

Installing update

I spent several months emailing the relevant person at Firefly every week, trying to get a fix. That was very frustrating, as he repeatedly said they were working on it, with no progress. I somehow managed to get the app to show a screen to choose a different floorplan, but the code I got from Firefly to choose the right one didn’t work. I eventually asked for a refund, and nothing happened on that either.

But I kept trying. After power cycling the entire coach for another reason, I managed to get that floorplan screen to appear again, and this time the code worked; I was finally able to set it to the correct model:

Bus settings

Yay!

Though it still isn’t perfect. Several of the pages aren’t quite right, e.g. on the home screen it shows LPG, which our coach doesn’t have, and the shade master and entry door lock controls don’t work:

 

Home page

The Lights page seems to work:

Lights page

But nothing on the Climate page works — our coach doesn’t have Spyder-controlled climate, so that isn’t surprising, though the Aqua-Hot controls should work, but don’t:

Climate page

On the Cockpit Shades page, nothing works:

Shades page

And on the Coach Shades page, the master and driver side don’t work, and the passenger side is reversed (goes down when pressing up):

Shades page

The Power pages are also mostly non-functional:

Power page

Power page

Power page

Power page

So after all that time, the app is still a little useless, though slightly better than it was before. The features that do work, like the tank levels and lights, are enough to justify keeping the app and device, though I wish more of the features worked correctly. I will likely continue using Coach Proxy most of the time, but for occasions when that is offline (due to Wi-Fi issues), having Mira as an alternative could be useful.

I would not recommend Mira for other owners of 2017-era coaches; Coach Proxy works much better. On more recent coaches, it might be more satisfactory. But I hold out hope that Firefly will improve the app, and maybe eventually fix those issues.

Starlink internet

A couple of months ago I wrote a post on our cellular internet options, where I mentioned that we recently got Starlink satellite as an additional option.

Starlink is a satellite-based service from SpaceX, that uses thousands of small satellites in a low Earth orbit to blanket most of the globe. Older satellite systems use geostationary satellites, that orbit at the same rate as the planet rotation to stay in the same relative position in the sky all the time, which requires that they are further out, resulting in higher latency, i.e. slower response times. By using lots of satellites orbiting much lower down, Starlink can be much more responsive.

We don’t use Starlink all the time, but in some situations it is the best option, e.g. when we are in an area with no or limited cell coverage. For example, at a recent park we had no T-Mobile or AT&T coverage, only Verizon — but we have limited data available via that network. So we set up the Starlink dish for unlimited data.

The speed can vary widely, anything from 1 to 120 Mbps down, and 1 to 20 Mbps up, with ping times of about 30 to 120 ms, which is comparable to cellular connections. Not bad for a sky connection.

We got residential Starlink, with portability to let us access the network while roaming around. Starlink now offers a RV-specific plan, though it isn’t any better a plan; actually it’s worse, as the data rate can be more limited.

Here’s our unboxing:

Starlink box

The dish and stand:

Starlink unboxing

Below that, the router and cable:

Starlink unboxing

The dish set up in our coach; the marks on it suggest that it was refurbished, something that I gather was fairly common:

Starlink dish

I put the Starlink router on the edge of a basement compartment, below a power outlet; the cord goes out the bottom of the door:

Starlink router

The rectangular Starlink dish; in typical SpaceX and Elon Musk fashion, it is named “Dishy McFlatface”:

Starlink dish

When setting it up in a breezy environment, I secure it to the ground using long screws and washer-like discs (that came from stakes; screws are easier to deal with than hammering in stakes):

Screw

I also got the Starlink Ethernet adapter, though don’t currently use it, since routing an Ethernet cable is extra hassle; I just connect to the Starlink router’s Wi-Fi via the Pepwave modem; perhaps not quite as fast, but convenient:

Starlink Ethernet adapter

(One day I want to figure out a way to permanently route an Ethernet cable from the basement to the internet cupboard, but I haven’t thought of anything satisfactory yet.)

When positioning the Starlink dish, its app has a handy tool to check the visibility; you can point the phone camera at the sky to get a visualization and report of obstructions, to help find the best spot:

Starlink visibility app screenshot

I initially stored the dish in the original box, but a better solution was suggested in the Starlink for RVers and other mobile users group on Facebook: a Husky 12-gallon container is a perfect size to fit the dish along with the packaging material, simply by cutting off the bottom part of the packaging, like so:

Husky container

The dish and stand then fits in nicely:

Husky container

And the cable on top (and some people put the router there too, but I keep it in my basement compartment):

Husky container

The closed container:

Husky container

I keep the Starlink container in a basement compartment, safely stored until next needed:

Husky container in basement

Starlink is a great option when there isn’t cellular service.

Coach Proxy

I bought a Coach Proxy device for our 2017 Tiffin Allegro Bus 40SP coach.

This is hardware and web-based software to remotely control the Spyder coach systems like lights, fans, etc. Everything that can be done from the main touch panel.

It is also obsolete technology that has a new lease of life. It was a commercial product a few years ago, but was discontinued. But many people enjoyed it, so it was released as an open source project, and some people have continued to make hardware for it using off-the-shelf components.

The device I purchased was an example of that; it was made by a guy named David Earnest, housed in a 3D-printed case:

Coach Proxy hardware

Coach Proxy hardware

The logic board is actually from a Raspberry Pi 400, with another board to interface with the Spyder network:

Coach Proxy hardware

I had a spare Spyder connector under the dash, so I mounted the box there:

Mounted and Spyder connection

The software side is a web app powered by that hardware, with controls for the various lights etc. Here is the top of the Interior page of Coach Proxy, with the main lights; the ones with a slider can be dimmed:

Coach Proxy controls

Scrolling down, the living room TV lift (that TV raises up in front of a window when wanted), and more lights. At the bottom the MEM ON turns on the lights that were on when the ALL OFF was used:

Coach Proxy controls

On to the shade controls; day and night shades on the driver and passenger sides, or all at once:

Coach Proxy controls

The Exterior page has lights, locks, and water systems:

Coach Proxy controls

The Climate page has fans and heated floors (very nice in cool weather):

Coach Proxy controls

A nice thing one can do via Coach Proxy that one can’t do via the touch panel is assign presets, to turn on or off custom sets of lights; I just have a couple so far:

Coach Proxy controls

The Status page has tank levels and power stuff:

Coach Proxy controls

The Notifications page lets me get a notice when certain conditions occur:

Notifications

Plus there are a couple more pages for settings, including options to set up remote access, so these controls can be changed when away from the coach via a secure connection.

A very useful device.

Internet cupboard

I previously posted about our internet services, with a picture of the cupboard above the entry door that contains the cellular modem:

Pepwave modem:

I decided to consolidate the internet stuff into this cupboard. So I hatched a plan to run a power cord from the outlet above the windshield to that cupboard:

Cupboards

I removed panels in those cupboards:

Removing panel

Removing panel

The mess of cables behind the panel in the front cupboard:

Behind panel

I used my drill with a large bit:

Drill

…to cut a hole in the panel:

Hole

…to fit a grommet:

IMG 1720

…for the power cord, which I pulled through by tying a strap to it:

Cord

Getting the cord through the small gap behind this speaker was rather tricky (I lost a bunch of skin):

Wire

…but I managed in the end:

Cord

I installed another grommet in this panel:

Grommet

The cord then plugged in to the power outlet (the front TV also plugs in there, and for some reason the top outlet only receives power when the ignition is on… maybe I should plug my dashcam into that?):

Power connection

The other end of the cord has a power strip with electrical and USB outlets:

Power

Then I moved the other internet devices into the cupboard:

Internet cupboard

In addition to the modem, it contains the MiFi hotspot:

MiFi

The power strip:

IMG 1739

A fan to cool the modem, as it gets rather hot:

Fan

And the security camera base unit, that has an Ethernet connection to the modem:

Camera base

I subsequently removed the door of this cupboard, since I was leaving it open for airflow:

Internet cupboard

It’s not super tidy, but it’s nice to have everything in one place.

Cellular internet

We are both still working as we travel the country in our motorhome, so having reliable internet access is essential.

To that end, we have six internet options: two cellular plans (AT&T and Verizon) in a cellular modem, one cell plan (T-Mobile) via a Wi-Fi hotspot device, two iPhones (AT&T), and (very recently) Starlink satellite internet.

And sometimes we connect to campground Wi-Fi, when available, though our various options are usually faster and more reliable.

Having four different networks and a variety of devices ensures that almost anywhere we are, we can connect to the internet.

Some details about the plans:

  • T-Mobile (via 5G Wi-Fi hotspot): unlimited data; plan provided by the Calyx Institute. This is what we’ve used the most, being truly unlimited.
  • AT&T (LTE SIM in cellular modem): 800 GB data; plan provided by Mobile Must Have. A good backup option, though often not very fast.
  • Verizon (5G SIM in cellular modem): 150 GB data; pre-paid plan from Verizon. Often the fastest cellular option, but very limited data, so we don’t use it much.
  • AT&T (iPhones): unlimited data; plans and phones provided by Apple Upgrade Program. We use these a lot as standalone devices. They only have 40 GB data as a personal hotspot, so we don’t tether other than emergencies.
  • Starlink (satellite): unlimited data; plan and dish provided by Starlink. We’ll probably use this the most going forward, if it proves to be reliable enough (and if our campsites can see enough of the sky).

I’ll cover Starlink in a separate post later, once we’ve spent more time with it — as of this post, we’ve only had it for a few days.

This is the T-Mobile Wi-Fi hotspot; we can connect to it directly, but most of the time we go via the modem, which also connects to it:

MiFi

The modem has a roof-mounted antenna (the white fin in the following picture), which we got from Mobile Must Have, and installed by NIRVC; a Poynting 7-in-1 Roof Antenna. It contains 4 cell antennas, 2 WiFi antennas, and a GPS antenna:

Roof antenna

Zoomed out a bit:

Roof antenna

The antenna connects to the Pepwave MAX Transit modem (also from MMH), which contains the AT&T and Verizon SIMs (and can support two more). NIRVC mounted it in a cupboard above our entry door:

Pepwave modem:

See a later post about some further modifications to this cupboard.