Loma Paloma RV Park

We stayed at Loma Paloma RV Park in Presidio, Texas. (Campground Reviews listing.)

Our first stop in Texas, a quiet, no-frills RV park just north of Mexico.

Dates:

  • Check in: 2022-11-13
  • Check out: 2022-11-27
  • 14 nights

Weather:

  • Mostly sunny, a little drizzle one day
  • High temps ranging between 52-71°F, lows around 32-42°F
  • Afternoon and evening wind most days, up to 28 MPH gusts

Noise:

  • Negligible road noise, no train noise
  • No neighbor noise, other than occasional yippy dogs

Site:

  • #72, pull-through, gravelly sand
  • Didn’t need to disconnect toad; parked behind coach
  • Very level
  • Medium site: about 60 feet long by about 38 feet wide
  • Full hookups:
    • 50 amp power, conveniently located
    • 45 PSI water, somewhat conveniently located
    • Good sewer connection, somewhat conveniently located (1.5 10-foot pipes needed)
  • Picnic table

Internet (in usage priority order):

  • T-Mobile: 86 Mbps down, 25 Mbps up, 55 ms ping
  • AT&T: 20-30 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up, 40 ms ping
  • Verizon: 10-13 Mbps down, 5 Mbps up, 40 ms ping
  • Campground Wi-Fi: not used
  • Starlink: not used

Amenities:

  • Garbage dumpsters
  • Package delivery to the site
  • Thanksgiving gathering

Here’s our review on Campground Reviews:

Basic park with super-friendly folks

We stayed for two weeks and loved the serenity of the place. The check-in process is self-serve, and then you pick your own site from the available options. Everyone is nicely spaced out in the park, and they encourage arrivals to leave space on either side, if possible, so you get the lovely views of the desert instead of your neighbor’s rig. We were there over Thanksgiving, and everyone made us feel very welcome, inviting us to the neighborhood feast where we met some of the long-term residents, some of whom have been wintering there for decades. The amenities are basic, but they work. Between the scenery and the people, we’d definitely stay here again. We camped at Loma Paloma RV Park & Golf Course in a Motorhome.

An interactive map of the RV park:

Our site:

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

This is our first campground in Texas… so you know what that means — yep, we get to add another sticker (the last new one until August next year!):

Texas sticker

State stickers

Stickers

This park is a bit unusual in that it doesn’t have a staffed office (more on that later). But we can still get packages delivered, as FedEx and UPS will deliver straight to our site:

UPS delivery to our site

The utilities weren’t ideally placed, but not too bad:

Utilities

A video of three cats by our site at night from our front door cam:

A pleasant view out our dining window:

View out our window

Sunsets:

Sunset

Sunset

Sunset

This campground is away from big cities, and the nearby Big Bend Ranch State Park is a dark sky park, so we have a good view of stars at night (looked better in person):

Stars

Stars

Stars

A sign for the park:

Sign

The main entrance:

Entrance

Slow adults at play; this is more of a long-term snowbird park than a kid-friendly one (which suits us just fine):

Slow adults at play

The office building:

Office

Office

As mentioned, it is unstaffed; it just has a small room with books and such, and a desk for self-registration, paying by cash or check in an honor box:

Office

Office

A map of the park on the wall:

Map

The other half of the building is a single toilet and a laundry:

Laundry

Other sites, including several long-term ones; people don’t live here year-round, but several people spend the winter here:

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

A bird feeder opposite our site:

Bird feeder

Wilderness opposite our coach:

Wilderness opposite our coach

Wilderness

Wilderness

Wilderness

Cats peeking over a tub:

Cats

Cats

The Lizard Lounge is a gathering place in the center of the park:

Lizard Lounge

Lizard Lounge

Lizard Lounge

Apparently once more people are here over winter they have regular gatherings there, but while we were here there was just one, a Thanksgiving feast:

Thanksgiving gathering

Thanksgiving gathering

Thanksgiving gathering

Thanksgiving gathering

Thanksgiving gathering

A nice bunch of people, and a relaxed, quiet RV park. I can see why many people come back every year to spend the winter here. We probably won’t, as it wasn’t quite warm enough for our wintertime, but if we’re passing this way again, we wouldn’t hesitate to stay again.

Travel from Carlsbad, New Mexico to Presidio, Texas

We drove our coach 275 miles, about five hours of driving, from Carlsbad, New Mexico to Presidio, Texas.

That was about double what we normally aim for, but we felt we could handle it, since we had two week stays on either side. And yes, it was fine; it didn’t feel like twice as long, due to taking several stops, plus the drive was pretty easy (no significant mountains or other challenges).

The map route, heading south:

Map route

An interactive map, with our stops:

Leaving the RV park:

Leaving RV park

Leaving RV park

Our coach with the slides in while traveling:

Slides in

Heading down the highway:

Highway

Carlsbad cavepeople in the median, and a mural of their historic aquaduct, the Pecos River Flume, which is also famous for being the only river that crosses itself:

Carlsbad cavepeople

Carlsbad

National Parks Highway:

National Parks Highway

Entering Texas from New Mexico:

Entering Texas

Entering Texas

Paladin on the dash, approaching a rest area:

Paladin on the dash approaching a rest area

Rest area

Continuing on down US-62, past the Guadalupe Mountains:

US-62

US-62

US-62

Guadalupe Mountains

Guadalupe Mountains

Guadalupe Mountains

Guadalupe Mountains

US-62

US-62 to SH-54:

US-62 to SH-54

Mountains

SH-54

A flood gauge:

Flood gauge

Mountains

SH-54

We quite liked this region of Texas; nice mountains etc:

Mountains

Mountains

Dip:

Dip

Big dip:

Big dip

Mountains

Mountains

Van Horn, Texas:

Van Horn, Texas

Van Horn, Texas

A fuel stop:

Fuel stop

There wasn’t a great place to stop for lunch around the Love’s, but I had an alternative plan; I had spotted a good place to park our coach elsewhere in town:

Lunch stop

Near a Pilot travel center (which we didn’t use for fuel, as we don’t get a discount there):

Lunch stop

We went to Wendy’s for lunch:

Wendy's

A funky camera artifact:

Funky camera artifact

Lunch (it’s pretty rare to have Wendy’s, but their fries are actually quite nice, for fast food; I like the skins-on style):

Lunch

Birds on a wire:

Birds on a wire

Back to our coach:

Back to our coach

Back on the road; we noticed cotton on the side of the road:

Back on the road

Probably from a cotton field:

Cotton field

Another stop:

Another stop

To check out a roadside art installation, Prada Marfa:

Prada Marfa

Prada Marfa

Prada Marfa

Prada Marfa

A selfie, with our coach in the background:

Prada Marfa

We spotted a border patrol blimp in the sky:

Border patrol blimp

Border patrol blimp

Giant Marfa mural:

Giant Marfa mural

Welcome to Marfa:

Welcome to Marfa

Stardust Motel sign:

Stardust Motel sign

Thunderbird Restaurant sign:

Thunderbird Restaurant sign

Mural:

Mural

We saw several old gas stations that had been converted to other activities:

Converted gas station

A border inspection station; unsurprising, being just north of Mexico:

Border inspection station

Highway

Paladin asleep:

Paladin asleep

Elephant Rock:

Elephant Rock

Highway

Pointy mountain:

Mountains

Presidio, Texas:

Presidio, Texas

Presidio, Texas

Presidio, Texas

Our destination:

Our destination

Our destination

Jenn checking in; the office is unattended, payment by check in an honor box:

Jenn checking in

We also got to pick our site here; plenty of available options:

Picking our site

Taking a break; happy Thanksgiving

We’ve been taking it easy recently, not doing many interesting things, so I’ve caught up with scheduled blog posts; the next post will be travel to our current location, which I don’t like to publish until after we leave.

So, after doing a new post every day for the past year or so, I’m going to take a break for a week, ostensibly to celebrate the Thanksgiving holiday week. See you on Monday the 28th!

(I will still do single-picture daily posts on my personal blog, if only for the Micro.blog challenge going on this month.)

I’ll leave you with this picture of a roadside attraction from that travel day:

Selfie at Prada Marfa

Unclogging macerating toilet

The RV lifestyle can be very magical, traveling around the country, exploring the national parks and other interesting places.

Other times, things can suddenly go wrong, requiring time-consuming and/or expensive repairs.

One such not so super fun occasion happened recently, when the macerating toilet in our rear bathroom stopped working. It is a bit more complicated than a regular residential toilet; at the press of a button on the wall (actually one of two buttons, for smaller and larger flushes), it adds water to the bowl, pumps out the contents, grinding it into tiny bits and pumping it to the black tank, then adds more water to the bowl.

But while it happily added more water, the pumping out stopped working; it just made a little noise like it was trying to start, but nothing happened.

Fortunately, we have two toilets in our coach, so it wasn’t a disaster, but obviously not ideal. So I did some online research to see what would be involved in fixing it. When living in an RV, one has to be somewhat handy in doing repairs; there are mobile RV techs that will come to a coach to fix things, but they can sometimes be hard to find or schedule, and of course can be expensive.

(By the way, our mid-bath toilet works differently; it is a gravity toilet, directly above the blank tank, so just rotates a valve to flush the contents. It is still a bit more complicated than a residential toilet, using power to pump in water and open the value. I previously repaired a fault with that one, too. The rear-bath toilet uses the macerator to pump the content several feet to the tank.)

I found a few forum posts about this kind of issue with this model of toilet, but the most helpful thing was a YouTube video showing how to remove and disassemble the toilet. That showed me that it was something I could tackle. So I did.

Here’s the macerating toilet:

Macerating toilet

The buttons on the wall, and instructions under the lid (this was after I manually siphoned out the water):

Macerating toilet

The toilet is secured to the floor with a couple of hex-head screws on either side (sorry about the dust):

Screws

Behind the toilet, a glimpse of the several wires and pipes that make it go:

Wires and pipes

Wires and pipes

Here’s me investigating behind the toilet; I used this collapsable bucket and manual-pump siphon hose to empty it:

David

The pipes behind the toilet; the vertical one in the middle is fresh water going into the toilet, via a little pump visible at the bottom, and the other pipes go from the bowl to the pump, and from there to the pipe in the floor that goes to the black holding tank:

Pipes

There are multiple wires: DC power, a connection to the wall switch, and two sets of wires to the mid and full sensors on the black tank, so the toilet can show orange and red lights to warn that the tank is getting full (it refuses to operate when the tank is full). Those latter two had the same connectors and color wires, so I marked the plugs before disconnecting them, so I’d know which was which:

Marked plugs

That done, I disconnected the wires and pipes:

Disconnected wires and pipes

After removing the toilet, you can see the wires and pipes; the long wire is the DC power; the two tank sensor wires are also on the floor, and the wall switch connector is poking out of the wall, plus the blue water hose and the white sewer hose:

Removed toilet

The back of the toilet:

Back of toilet

I moved it to the shower, so any remaining liquid wouldn’t make a mess:

Toilet in shower

I then disconnected the pipe leading to the macerator pump, where I expected the problem would be (yes, wearing disposable gloves, and a head lamp to help me see):

David cleaning out toilet

Yep, there was an accumulation of non-dissolved toilet paper blocking the macerator:

Cleaning out macerator

We use Charmin Ultra Soft toilet paper, which is RV safe, as it quickly dissolves in water. Some people say only special RV-safe single-ply TP should be used, but life’s too short for uncomfortable TP. I’m not sure why some accumulated here over the past year of usage… but if I have to repeat this again in a year, it’ll be worth it.

Having cleaned out the blockage, I considered whether or not to further disassemble the pump, to look for any further blockage deeper inside, but it looked like I had got it all, so I decided not to. I moved the toilet over to the wall, and temporarily hooked up the power and switch to test it:

Hooked up to test

The pump ran correctly, so I re-installed it:

Repaired toilet

All better! Not the most fun job, but not too difficult. It is very satisfying to be able to fix something myself, and add more experience and a new skill.

I hope this wasn’t too gross for you. And hopefully this will help other RVers who have a problem with this model of toilet.

Carlsbad Caverns National Park again

We visited Carlsbad Caverns a second time, this time to do the Natural Entrance and Big Room trails.

On the way, passing the Apache Canyon Trading Post:

Apache Canyon Trading Post

And White’s City:

White's City

White's City

The Carlsbad Caverns sign:

Carlsbad Caverns sign

Entrance road:

Entrance road

Again we had a picnic lunch by the visitor center:

Picnic lunch

The visitor center sign:

Visitor center sign

The path to the natural entrance:

Path to natural entrance

We were stopped for the pre-entrance instructions from the ranger:

Path to natural entrance

The bat amphitheater, where people can watch the bats leaving the cave in the evenings:

Bat amphitheater

Heading down into the natural entrance:

Path to natural entrance

Path to natural entrance

An info sign; 1.25 miles, 750 feet of elevation change:

Info sign

The natural entrance:

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Natural entrance

Reaching the junction with the Rest Stop and Big Room:

Natural entrance

Rest stop sign

The Big Room trail:

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Big Room

Back to the Underground Rest Stop:

Underground rest area

We bought a snack at the shop; the attendant was very chatty with info about the cave, visitors, bats, etc:

Underground rest area

Underground rest area

Back up the elevator:

Elevator

The gift shop:

Gift shop

Jenn bought a bunch of postcards; she collects the WPA-style postcards, and this gift shop had an excellent collection, so she was able to get some missing and future ones:

Postcards

A selfie by the sign, with a stuffed toy bat from the gift shop:

Selfie

Guadalupe Mountains National Park

Just south of Carlsbad Caverns National Park, across the border in Texas, is Guadalupe Mountains National Park.

Passing through the town of Carlsbad again on the way there:

Carlsbad

Cave people art:

Cave people art

We stopped for lunch at a tiny separate section of Carlsbad Caverns NP, Rattlesnake Springs Picnic Area:

Rattlesnake Springs Picnic Area

They have a very nice picnic area in an oasis of trees, which we had pretty much to ourselves (only one other group in the distance):

Rattlesnake Springs Picnic Area

Rattlesnake Springs sign:

Rattlesnake Springs sign

This area has a spring that is the source of the water for the caverns:

Spring

Spring pool:

Spring pool

With fish:

Fish

Continuing on, we entered Texas:

Entering Texas

Mountains:

Mountains

A brief stop at the small McKittrick Canyon Visitor Center of Guadalupe Mountains National Park:

McKittrick Canyon Visitor Center;

Then on to the main part of the park:

Guadalupe Mountains National Park

Pine Springs Visitor Center:

Pine Springs Visitor Center

You know I enjoy 3D relief maps:

Relief map

Inside the visitor center:

Pine Springs Visitor Center

Pine Springs Visitor Center

Pine Springs Visitor Center

Pine Springs Visitor Center

We walked along the Pinery Trail, about a mile of nature trail:

Pinery Trail

Pine Springs Visitor Center

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

Pinery Trail

We took a look at the “campground”, little more than a parking lot (and too small for our coach):

Campground

We were impressed by El Capitan mountain:

El Capitan mountain

A rest area and view:

Rest area

El Capitan mountain again:

El Capitan mountain

El Capitan mountain

A quick spin along Frijole Ranch road:

Frijole Ranch

Frijole Ranch

Then back north into New Mexico, a much-needed carwash, and back home to our coach.

Carlsbad Caverns National Park

We visited Carlsbad Caverns National Park in southern New Mexico:

Carlsbad Caverns sign

The road to the visitor center:

Road

We had a reservation for a ranger-led tour, so after checking in, we had a picnic lunch:

Picnic

Back to the visitor center:

Visitor center

Bat artwork in the foyer:

Bat artwork

The ticketing area:

Tickets

There are two ways down to the caverns: elevators, or the natural entrance. This time, we took the elevators. They lead to the underground rest stop, with food, swag, and bathrooms:

Underground rest area

We joined the ranger for our guided tour:

Ranger guide

He was a bit of a character, with multiple philosophy degrees. That definitely showed in his talks, with discussions of paradoxes and raising questions about the caverns.

The tour we went on was the King’s Palace tour (the only one offered currently). It gives access to caverns not open to the general public, via this gate:

Gate

Heading down:

Heading down

Heading down

Stalactites:

Stalactites

Stalactites

Stalactites

The King’s Palace room:

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

The ranger passed around an old photo showing the room (sorry, not a great shot of it):

Old photo

Through a tunnel to the next room:

Tunnel

The Papoose Room:

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Papoose Room

Tunnel

The Queen’s Chamber:

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

Queen's Chamber

An actively dripping column; the ranger turned out the lights and we sat by this in total darkness for a few minutes, just listening to the dripping of the water:

Column

A fossilized bat:

Fossilized bat

Queen's Chamber

Telephone:

Telephone

Queen's Chamber

Tunnel

Back to King’s Palace, on the other side:

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Kings Palace

Tunnel

Green Lake

Green Lake

Green Lake (a small pool):

Green Lake

Green Lake

Green Lake

Heading up some stairs:

Stairs

Column

The end of the tour at the exit gate:

Gate

Looking down:

Looking down

Old stairs:

Old stairs

Old stairs

Looking down

Swiss cheese:

Swiss cheese

Swiss cheese

New York Skyline:

New York

New York

Info sign:

Info sign

Back at the underground rest stop:

Rest stop

Rest stop shop:

Rest stop shop

Restrooms:

Restrooms

Restrooms

Another map:

Map

Exit to elevators:

Exit to elevators

Elevators:

Elevators

Heading up from 750 feet underground:

750 feet underground

The elevators debouch into the gift store, of course:

Gift store

Gift store

An impressive 3D map of the caverns:

Relief map

Relief map

Relief map

Relief map

Relief map

Relief map

Relief map

Jenn just hanging around:

Jenn

Another gift shop and restaurant:

Gift shop and restaurant

Gift shop

Gotta have her pressed penny:

Pressed penny

Back outside the visitor center:

Visitor center

Carlsbad KOA Holiday

We stayed at Carlsbad KOA Holiday in Carlsbad, New Mexico. (Campground Reviews listing.)

A decent park, with an onsite BBQ kitchen.

Dates:

  • Check in: 2022-10-30
  • Check out: 2022-11-13
  • 14 nights

Weather:

  • Mostly sunny
  • High temps ranging between 56-81°F, lows around 31-47°F
  • Some afternoon and evening wind, up to 37 MPH gusts

Noise:

  • Some road noise, no train noise
  • A KOA Holiday could be noisy with kids, but it’s mostly empty at this time of year

Site:

  • #B9, pull-through, gravel
  • Didn’t need to disconnect toad; parked behind coach
  • Very level
  • Large site: about 75 feet long by about 45 feet wide
  • Full hookups:
    • 50 amp power, fairly conveniently located
    • 50 PSI water, conveniently located
    • Good sewer connection, somewhat conveniently located (1.5 10-foot pipes needed)
  • Patio table, chairs, and rocker bench seat on textured concrete patio; fire pit
  • A few goat’s heads, not too bad

Internet (in usage priority order):

  • T-Mobile: 13-32 Mbps down, 25-37 Mbps up, 60 ms ping
  • Verizon: 15-33 Mbps down, 23-31 Mbps up, 80 ms ping
  • AT&T: 7-14 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up, 105 ms ping
  • Campground Wi-Fi: 8-11 Mbps down, 8-40 Mbps up, 70 ms ping
  • Starlink: not used

Amenities:

  • Garbage dumpster
  • Closed pool
  • Onsite BBQ kitchen
  • Mail delivery to the office

Here’s our review on Campground Reviews:

Good basecamp for the Carlsbad area

We stayed for two weeks in a patio site and really enjoyed our time here. The staff were all very friendly and helpful, going so far as to help me forward a couple of packages that arrived after our departure. The onsite BBQ was convenient and tasty, especially nice after a day of driving. There is a tiny bit of road noise from the highway, but it was generally pretty quiet. It was pretty easy to get to Carlsbad Caverns and Guadalupe Mountains National Parks as well as Sitting Bull Falls and various state parks. We camped at Carlsbad KOA Holiday in a Motorhome.

The RV park map:

Map

Our site:

Our site

Our site

Our site

Our site

We sprung for a patio site, which included a textured concrete patio, fire pit, rocker bench, patio table, and chairs:

Patio

The utilities; there were two sewer ports, though neither ideally positioned for us, but the water and power were reasonably placed:

Utilities

I mentioned in our previous campground that the water pressure regulator and gauge got frozen and stopped working correctly. So I replaced them while here, plus replaced the water hose with a more flexible one, to make it easier to put away:

Replaced hose, regulator, gauge

Some nice sunsets:

Sunset

Sunset

Sunset

Sunset

A nice feature of this RV park is that it has a BBQ smoker and kitchen, offering various food options. We had a couple of meals from there; especially welcome on a travel day:

Food

Another meal:

Food

Tasty lava cake dessert:

Dessert

We made good use of our griddle while here, including breakfast for dinner one night (with Jenn helping to cook the eggs):

Griddle

We were able to add a couple more National Park stickers on our coach while here:

National Park stickers

Another Allegro Bus next to us:

Another Allegro Bus

And a Vanleigh fiver across from us:

Vanleigh fiver

Another neighbor, a #vanlifer:

Vanlifer

Other sites elsewhere in the campground:

Fiver

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

Other sites

“Be patient… I am pushing this thing as fast as I can!”:

Other sites

An intriguing configuration: a van and tiny toy hauler trailer. Kinda the best of both worlds (or the worst?); would be good for fitting in small campsites like in many national parks; the benefits of having your home always with you when exploring, but more living space at the site:

Van and trailer

The entrance and flags flapping in the wind:

Entrance and flags

KOA sign:

KOA sign

The office and store:

Office

Office

Office

Rec hall:

Rec room

Rec room

Rec room

Porch by the rec hall, laundry, and bathrooms:

Porch

Giant chess:

Giant chess

Giant checkers and swing seat (and you can see our coach in the background):

Giant checkers and swing seat

These drifting seed pods were everywhere:

Drifting seat pods

Wind turbine; it sounded like a helicopter in strong winds:

Wind turbine

Closed pool:

Closed pool

Closed pool

Pond:

Pond

Pond

Pond

Landscaping:

Landscaping

Old fire engine:

Old fire engine

Tent sites:

Tent sites

Dog park:

Dog park

Cabins:

Cabins

We’d be happy to stay here again.